Rex - I wonder how people like you fin articles like this to comment on. Are you just trolling the internet searching for gay articles? If that's the case, maybe you need to ask yourself a more important question.
Rex, the very first sentence of this article indicated it would be about homosexuality. At the moment you read that, you were more than welcome to leave this page. Nothing was shoved down your throat...you read on voluntarily.
As for that biblical quote (so often thrown about by people wanting to wave their self imposed superiority at others: If that's what you believe, then don't bang a dude. But don't think you have to the right to impose your religious views on anyone else. You don't.
Rex: The only thing unnatural on this page is a man your age wearing a cut-off shirt. Please put both your literal and metaphorical guns away.
I am confused by this comment. Mr. Whitinger in no way insulted the Christian community in this article. The only time he even mentions religion is at the end of this piece when he states that hurtful words not come from some religious leader (among others). This is a statement of fact. One need only read comments from Westboro Baptist to see the contempt some have for members of the gay community.
I also have to disagree with you in that Mr. Whitinger makes no attempt to "shove" any ideology "down our throats". He is simply asking for an end to the hurtful words and actions that you, yourself call "morally wrong". However, it confounds me how one can write that "insulting another person is morally wrong period", yet go on to call someone immoral and sinful in the same paragraph. That seems a contradiction.
It could easily be argued that if one wants to claim moral authority by quoting the Old Testament's Leviticus, chapter and verse, then one should also adhere to the advice Jesus Christ, himself, gives us in John 8:7.
Finally, let's seriously consider the context of the term bullying. Mr. Whitinger's article seems to use the contemporary definition of bullying, which guides state law in such matter (see IC 20-33-8-0.2). Bullying in the above comment does not meet that definition. It is the equivalent of saying that a victim of verbal, emotional, and/or physical acts is bullying the bully by asking them to stop.
I appreciate you sharing your experience Doug. I'm sorry for what you endured then and now. I hope people will be inspired by your words. I'm a straight man who was much like your school tormenters for many years. I can not undo the hateful things of my past. I am not that same person now. I have evolved. It's not my place to tell anyone how they should live. If you love someone as much as I love my wife, you are a lucky man. I could never discourage you from something so amazing. You will get my vote.
Oh, and Rex, you can't cherry pick parts of the Bible you want to live by and apply. It's all or nothing bro. I hope you don't eat shellfish or wear wool. Doug and I will pray for you.
Doug: I believe insulting another person is morally wrong period. But on another situation as you being gay. That is morally wrong also As it even says In the bible about Homosexuals. As if you read in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. You will see that God states Man will not lie down with another man. And woman shall not lie down with another woman. Don't shove your sinful natures down our throat please. That is considered bullying in a sense of act. And the gay community has been bullying us in that way. You don't like us to treat you wrong. So think of it in the same capacity of you or the gay community treating us straight people right and especially the Christian community as well ok?
That was so moving. Thanks.
I will have whatever theflipside is smoking.
Cannabis will cure the Republican-Democrat cancers just as it cures the cancer in your body.
Suffer if you like. I'm smoking weed.
"Protect" students from what? Your fear of Your Strawman?
Acknowledge > Admit > Accept > Understand
"Their presence in schools will serve to increase respect for law by students and also deter problems of bullying, weapons and drug abuse that must be addressed in schools every day,"
I recently heard Angela Davis (go ahead, research her) speak about "SROs". She made some interesting points. Such as who are the SROs allied with? The students? Or the Police? And isn't the presence of police (let's be honest) in our schools, the equivalent of saying our students are going to do something bad, so we have to be there? What sort of message is that to send to our students? We believe you are going to commit a crime in advance of you doing so.
Ms. Davis was much more eloquent about her dislike of the SRO program. And I don't claim to do her justice.
It does seem like an inexpensive way to "protect" our students. But don't forget. You always get what you pay for.
You're more than entitled to your opinion, but your opinion shouldn't trump my civil rights.
As a Christian, and by no means do I profess to be perfect, I'm sorry that you are so hurt by my faith. However, my faith and the Bible that I read, tells me that I'm not under the Mosetical law, which is during the Old Testament, and the verse that you have referenced in your article. One of the verses on marriage that is within the New Testament, Matthew 19:4-6, or Ephesians 5:22-23, or 1 Corinthians 7:1-16, essentially state the same thing, though. (I won't state them here, as it is quite lengthy and they all say wife and husband.) The New Testament is Christ's dispensation. Those are the verses I would look to when people support the ban.
Addressing the slippery slope... It may not look like a slippery slope for all, but it is a law looking to be changed, and of course after changing one, the next one is sought out. Please take this very basic example for instance.
The speed limit on a highway is changed to from 50 to 60 miles an hour, as the flow of traffic is outside the city limits, and is deemed a better pace for traffic. However, those people that speed, may think, "Oh, well now that it's 60, I'm going to go 5 over because that's what I always do." And the person that normally goes 10 over will do so and so on. And before you know it, it will get pushed to be increased again.
(Again, I know that's the most basic of examples, but I hope it helps to illustrate the rational of those who hold this argument.)
And for the third point you made; I believe that every human being makes an impact on someone. I also believe that multiple people making the same decision can cause a chain reaction and effect many.
For this point, I'll use the illustration of texting and driving. When texting first began to increase in a preferred form of communication (I'll say in the mid 2000's for dates sake) it was recommended that individuals not text and drive. Then, as the number of reported traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities were reported, the warnings grew. Then, as celebrities and media personalities were reported to have been involved in traffic accidents that may or may not have resulted in death, state ad campaigns were began. At present day there is state legislation that has declared texting while driving illegal, there are state ad campaigns, national ad campaigns, ads with celebrities making the pledge not to text and drive, local news media pledging not to text and drive, thumb rings with slogans such as "weight to text" and the like, ad campaigns with appearances by individuals nearly killed or the words of those killed as a result of texting and driving, etc.
So, as to third point, I hope I have demonstrate how something, that is seemingly so small as texting your sister, "omg, smh", in response to her rant about the newest celebrity baby name might actually be a really big deal, and impact many.
Thank you for allowing me to share my feelings on the points that you have made, and I hope you will respect me enough to allow my points to remain posted even though they are very different from yours. I may not agree with you, as you may not agree with me, but I still believe that everyone is entitled to share his/her beliefs. Also, on a personal note, I may not agree with you, but I care about you as a person just the same. Have a blessed day!
After my sister was married for 25 years, she got breast cancer. Chemo, radiation, the whole bit. The next year, she had a recurrence. She has a BS from Notre Dame, a MS from Purdue. She stayed home with her kids for 17 years and was on her husband's insurance. He came home (she was bald as a billiard ball) and said he did not want to be married to a sick person, he was having an affair, and wanted a divorce. This was in TX where laws are horrific for women. She had to BEG him to move out but not divorce her so she could keep insurance. Her standard of living is in the toilet--she can barely afford her rent. He left with the earnings, the earning potential, and the insurance. She is left with uncertainty and fear. This is an example of how quickly a woman who relies on a marriage/husband can go from middle class to the working poor. It is not right. Women, we have a lot of work to do. The homeless could include all minimum wage workers, even if they work two or three jobs. Unless there are at least two earners doing this, it all falls apart. Relying on relationships? Risky business. We need affordable housing and Obamacare--ASAP.
Here, here!! Very well said.
You manage to capture what anyone who has been a caregiver and/or has watched a loved one fade away tries to express. Thank you for yet another reminder that we are intertwined with our parents forever, Mark! "Mirror, mirror on the wall, I've become my mother after all!"
I think you're right, they are frightened! But how do we get them to stop this foolishness? As you mentioned, reason doesn't do a bit of good for a group of people who are acting out of fear, and fear alone.
Mark...I was so moved reading about the last days of your Father...My Dad too had Alzheimers disease and I helped my Mom care for him esp the last 2 years of his life. I can understand your feelings and it took me back to the last few weeks of my Dad's life. I treasure every moment I spent with my Dad and every memory we made... as I know you do too. Thank you for sharing your precious memories with us of your Dad and your family...
My dad lives with my sister in Ohio I am 8 hours away, I wish I could be with him. We are planning on moving there in March tso I can e closer to him and my sister. He has alzheimers/ dementia. Than You for sharing you journey with us.
Wonderful, Mark, just wonderful.
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