I knew Trump would make a Great choice,but the more I know about Pence,I am liking him better all the time! Trump and Pence are Exactly who we need to Make our country Great Again and Clean up the MESSES of the LIAR DEMORATS and RINOS!!
Ramona Perez...wait that last name rings a bell...oh you are on the list to deport under President Trump...no questions asked.....
This country needs a change and if it takes trump and pence to do it then so be I am tired if all the illigala here in Indiana there are 6 elementary schools here in my town and its 90% imigrents my sons 4th grade class there were only 6 white kids in his class and as far as abortion goes it should only be terminates if the mother is at risk or it was rape life matters you don't want a kid keep you legs closed and use protection I'm am sick of this state and country I am tired of all the illegals getting the upper hand send them all back them there will be jobs for everyone and we wouldn't need 6 elementary schools
Anyone voting for a libertarian is falling into a trap . They must not be aware of the fact that the Kochs are libertarians and ran on the libertarian ticket against Reagan.
They'd just love to see a libertarian in office and I'm sure they'd back that candidate with everything they can.
If you,absolutely,have to vote 3rd party. Do so with Jill Stein in the green party.
firewoman1220, Laura L Easley, Jake Hauser: thank you for your gr8 points
Kari Myers Craig, Human, American, TheAutomator, Disappointed American: I agree in principal but please listen to TheItGyrl and John Whitbeck: wait until we don’t have a nutcase on the ballot! The status quo, bad as it may be, is way better than where we could be going with Drumpf. If you are in a solid red or blue state feel free to vote your heart, but if you are in a swing state please vote practical.
James Slaughterbeck: 1) You assume rfra promotes religious liberty?!? It promotes Christianity -- that is not the same thing at all. 2) Communist or socialist is not the same as bad – you need to explain why an idea is bad beyond just labelling its economic basis. We actually have lots of socialist things in this country that you depend on: Did you ever buy auto insurance, home insurance, or life insurance, health insurance? All of these are socialist mechanisms. And labor unions are an American way, not actually communistic at all. Didn’t you read US history in high school? 3) See Syrian refugee argument below. 4) See abortion argument below. …You have lots of ammunition, but you’re firing all blanks! (no pun intended)
James Slaughterbeck, LKMystique: In my opinion abortion cannot be argued logically, because each position is based in fundamental values, beliefs, and emotions – not logic. So I applaud you for not bothering with logical arguments, and I will follow your lead there. However the arguments you did use like “It’s just wrong,” and pushing your opponents’ positions to ridiculous extremes with disturbing images like “throw the baby out with the trash” and “36-week abortions” just make for good news bites -- not useful dialogue. You are convincing nobody of anything, except maybe that you have a closed mind.
James Slaughterbeck, Peggy Abner: As for the Syrian refugees, even if every single Hoosier wants the Syrians out, the Constitution says you don’t always get what you want because, well, sometimes it would be unconstitutional. For example, I would rather not have firearms in the hands of just any citizen …But I respect that the founding fathers may have been smarter than I am. You, and your governor, should try respecting the Constitution too. And that really is a no-brainer.
James Slaughterbeck , Irene Taylor: I usually don’t like name calling but seriously, we have one candidate (Clinton) and one nutcase (Drumf).
Peggy Abner, Being an IA resident does not make you an expert, especially if you get your facts from Fox News. You do know that Plannned Parenthood does HIV testing, and STD education (including needle-sharing), right? Both of these are proven, preventative, and non-controversial measures that directly correlate to HIV frequency. Please get your facts straight before your say PP has no influence on HIV frequency. I don’t know who “most of you” are, but “most of us” appreciate spending $ on measures to prevent the spread of the largest disease since the bubonic plague.
Hoosierguy: thank you for your thought-provoking questions. Not sure how you decided the world has “gone wild with everyone’s rights” (Try living in any third-world country for a while)? I tried to formulate a response to your 1-liner belief, but it takes me many paragraphs (pages?) or none. For starters though, I couldn’t help but notice that while there were 2 people making a choice whether to have sex (though in many cases, it’s actually one making a choice and another being put under pressure or even forced), but frequently only one person dealing with the consequences of that choice – the woman. "We" (or more correctly, white male lawmakers) cannot fix this societal problem by simply blaming women for making a series of bad choices. Another thought: it is rather insincere to care for the unborn stranger, but not care for *everyone*. A wise man once said, “In the United States, pro-lifers feel every life is sacred – until childbirth that is, then you’re on your own.”
So glad trump picked pence, now he will be out of this state since he will not be governor and pretty soon have no job. He has been an awful governor for indiana
I like him more since I read these comments, He sounds like a decent God fearing man. So glad Trump picked him. By the way did he promise to make Indiana great. think that would be above what he could do. Blame Obama, He has all power.
@LKMYSTIQUE What about rape????? can a women abort a child for that reason? Or is that not a valid reason. Come on!
The only reason a 3rd party has never won is we think they can't.
This is the first year I am voting 3rd party. I can't vote for a lesser of two evils.
I will vote Gary Johnson.
Mirlo may I remind you that at one time it was legal to own other human beings in this country? I'd like to also mention that the U S Supreme Court upheld the law...
They didn't get it right with slavery just like they didn't get it right with Roe v Wade...
In a world gone wild with everyone's rights...why do unborn babies get their rights stripped from them? These are human beings with beating hearts. Made of the same flesh and blood as you and I...
Now I believe in choice, I just believe the choice takes place before sex causes pregnancy....
Just food for thought
I have lived in Indiana for the last 20+ years. Just moved to Texas. I lived in Jackson county which is right next to Scott County. Get your facts straight! The rise in HIV was due to a drug problem and sharing of needles. NOTHING to do with planned parenthood!!!! And the state GIVING out free needles to these drug users to try and stop more people from getting HIV! Which most of us did not agree with! I am sorry but I did not like the fact that my tax payers money went to supply drug habits!!!!! As for the Syrian refugees, Hoosiers didn't want them there!! Sorry! But it's the truth! There was one small group fighting for their rights(pictured). Everyone wants to blame the governor for everything, but they are inundated with calls and emails and they respond to the people and try to give them what they want. No one is all sunshine and roses and perfect, no I don't agree with everything he did, but don't be so quick to crucify someone when you didn't live in that state and you don't know every little detail of the events that unfolded!!!!!
Human,American: If you start a movement on Nov 10th, say, to get rid of the two-party system, you'll have my full support. But now is not the time. And third party voting is not the way anyway. What effect did Perot's and Nader's candidacies have on pushing the abolition of the 2-party system? None. But did they have any side effects? Yes, Nader's candidacy resulted in the election of George W. Bush.
This year, defeating Trump is the most important job in front of us. A vote for a 3rd party candidate instead of for Trump is OK. But a vote for Clinton is better.
BTW, for those liberals considering Johnson, carefully research his issues, especially a woman's right to choose. He and his campaign site say he's for it, but he's not. He's for washing his hands of it by reversing Roe v Wade, and leaving it up to the Texas legislature, for example, to decide whether each of Texas' 14 million women should have access to an abortion clinic.
A libertarian is not a thrifty liberal. He or she is a person who usually believes, for example, that the ever-growing income and wage gaps in America, carefully orchestrated by decades of business-government cooperation, should be ignored; let the people with money do anything they want. After all, freedom, right?
I'm curious how many people who propose adoption as an alternative to abortion have adopted, or even considered adopting a child....hypocrites propose ideas, but fail to practice them....jus sayin....
Deb: There are very limited reasons for abortion, in fact, as a Christian I can only think of one. If the mother's life is at risk. Otherwise there is always adoption. In your theory, if she has an abortion she should just be able to throw the baby in the trash and go on? Why should she not have to pay for at least the cremation of the child especially, if as you say, she wanted the child to begin with?
Mirlo: Abortion on demand is totally wrong, so are you in agreement that an abortion should be able to be performed up to 36 weeks? You realize that babies are born every minute at that gestation date and live? The theory that a "fetus" (child) can't feel pain up until that date is totally flawed. I don't know if you are a man or a woman but if you are a woman and have ever had a child you know that child can feel movement, pain, and even the stress of the mother way before 36 weeks. Abortion on demand is total BS.
Abortion on demand is legal in this country and your moral view carries no weight. You don't get to tell women what they should or should not do. Why do you think you can?
no james.... just noooooo!!
James the RFEA bill only protects Christians Rights what about those that are not Christians? There a a huge number of people that do not practice Christianity in this country. So why only them? Also Pence's restrictions on abortions is just wrong. For example a woman and her husband decide they want to have a baby. So she gets pregnant but the doctor says that because of an illness or disease that the woman has a high rate of dying if she continues with the pregnancy. The woman and her husband decide to have an abortion. However, she may not even be able to get that abortion because of the strict regulations, and if she does she has to pay for the burial or cremation the child. A child that she wanted in the first place. Know your facts before you speak James.
1. You assume everyone dissagrees with the rfra bill, there's nothing wrong with protecting religious liberty...he should have stuck to his guns..
2. Most people agree with the right to work state, why should a person have to pay union dues to work, that is a communist idea to start with.
3. We dont want syrian refugees in america, look at urope and what they are suffering through because of this, thats a no brainer!.
4. Abortion on demand is wrong on so many levels, a woman should have a dam good reason to kill her child, something other than opps I was drunk and made a bad decision...
So, you have very little ammunition that anyone cares to hear about, Pence will make a good VP for Donald Trump so just accept it or go vote for the evil witch...
Voting 3rd party is not a waste of a vote, it's a vote in favor of the candidate you prefer. It is completely okay to not vote for candidates you don't think share your values. A vote for a candidate that doesn't represent you is more of a waste and is morally reprehensible.
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