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Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

Another privileged white man bitching about racism. Fuck you.

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Posted by Daniel Corbe on 10/11/2014 at 12:59 AM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

Everyone should watch:

10 Rules for Dealing with Police

The key phrase to remember is:

"Officer are you detaining me or am I free to go?"

Had our hapless Taser-victim asked this question clearly, he likely could have ended this encounter peacefully in the first minute. Unclear communications leaves you in a state of unwittingly voluntarily submitting to prolonged encounters.

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Posted by Vicente on 10/10/2014 at 2:10 AM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

My Italian friend drives with a white T-shirt with a black diagonal stripe that LOOKS like a seatbelt. That's how Italians show the finger.

When seatbelt violations first came into law they were secondary. You couldn't be pulled over for it, but they could add it on to other charges. It wasn't until later they became primary. In my old hometown there are officers now that do nothing but sit near the busiest intersections with binoculars and watch for seatbelts and run down offenders. It's a bottomless easy revenue stream for them.

It's also nothing new that cops carry around a stack of BOLO notices. There's bound to be a fuzzy sketch of someone in that stack that looks like you, and they can use that as the reason to question you and run your information through their computer.

Most states I believe specify that you have to supply identification on request. It doesn't mean you have to present a photo ID. Stating your name, address, and date of birth satisfies the request. These cops got all hung up on getting a photo ID that I don't think they actually were entitled to.

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Posted by Vicente on 10/10/2014 at 1:57 AM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

I'd like to know when it became acceptable to pull people over for a seat-belt violation. When they adopted the law in Indiana, they said they would only cite people who were pulled over another violation. How does anyone not wearing their seat belt endanger anyone else? These are easy money for police departments. They don't have to risk their life and they can ticket you for basically not harming another living soul.

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Posted by Liz on 10/09/2014 at 10:30 PM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

On IND 37 in Johnson County, a profit center for the county sheriff, I've been pulled over for ostensible seatbelt violations. To the untrained eye, I'm a Caucasian good old boy who likes to speed, too, but none of the times was for speeding.

My darker-skinned friends, however, can without exception give you stories about that stretch of road. I've been waiting for the dark day when something bad happens. A sudden move, or a reach behind a seat. My friends also without exception have trained each other to be polite, and move very, very slowly to do anything. DWB is dangerous in the US. Shouldn't be that way.

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Posted by FromSouthernIndiana on 10/09/2014 at 9:24 PM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

White male here, got a no seat belt ticket about 12 years ago in Lafayette. Cost about $40 bucks or so. I didn't have it on, was just going a couple blocks. Snapped it on after the cop put his lights on. I said I have it on. He says , you mean to tell me you had it on when I spotted you without it on? I just dropped my head and said no lol.

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Posted by CBGB on 10/09/2014 at 9:23 PM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

My (white) significant other was pulled over and ticketed for not wearing a seatbelt, even though she was. We decided to fight it in court and the cop didn't show, so no ticket or fine.

Posted by John Belden on 10/09/2014 at 8:41 PM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

i think you are trying to make a name for yourself with this story , good luck joining the rest of the 1 sided national news bozos

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Posted by Arnold Wert on 10/09/2014 at 8:23 PM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

white lady here that has been pulled over for seat belt violation while i was wearing my seat belt. when i demonsrated to the officer that i did in fact have my seat belt on his response was "when did you sneak that on".

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Posted by Sadie Slayton-Pittman on 10/09/2014 at 8:08 PM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

White guy here. Been pulled over five times for it. In our town -- Kokomo -- the local dept uses federal money provided for overtime for seat belt enforcement. They have to write a set number of tickets. 12-14 in three hours.

Posted by Seatbelt violator on 10/09/2014 at 7:05 PM

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