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Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

Another privileged white man bitching about racism. Fuck you.

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Posted by Daniel Corbe on 10/11/2014 at 12:59 AM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

Everyone should watch:

10 Rules for Dealing with Police

The key phrase to remember is:

"Officer are you detaining me or am I free to go?"

Had our hapless Taser-victim asked this question clearly, he likely could have ended this encounter peacefully in the first minute. Unclear communications leaves you in a state of unwittingly voluntarily submitting to prolonged encounters.

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Posted by Vicente on 10/10/2014 at 2:10 AM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

My Italian friend drives with a white T-shirt with a black diagonal stripe that LOOKS like a seatbelt. That's how Italians show the finger.

When seatbelt violations first came into law they were secondary. You couldn't be pulled over for it, but they could add it on to other charges. It wasn't until later they became primary. In my old hometown there are officers now that do nothing but sit near the busiest intersections with binoculars and watch for seatbelts and run down offenders. It's a bottomless easy revenue stream for them.

It's also nothing new that cops carry around a stack of BOLO notices. There's bound to be a fuzzy sketch of someone in that stack that looks like you, and they can use that as the reason to question you and run your information through their computer.

Most states I believe specify that you have to supply identification on request. It doesn't mean you have to present a photo ID. Stating your name, address, and date of birth satisfies the request. These cops got all hung up on getting a photo ID that I don't think they actually were entitled to.

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Posted by Vicente on 10/10/2014 at 1:57 AM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

I'd like to know when it became acceptable to pull people over for a seat-belt violation. When they adopted the law in Indiana, they said they would only cite people who were pulled over another violation. How does anyone not wearing their seat belt endanger anyone else? These are easy money for police departments. They don't have to risk their life and they can ticket you for basically not harming another living soul.

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Posted by Liz on 10/09/2014 at 10:30 PM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

On IND 37 in Johnson County, a profit center for the county sheriff, I've been pulled over for ostensible seatbelt violations. To the untrained eye, I'm a Caucasian good old boy who likes to speed, too, but none of the times was for speeding.

My darker-skinned friends, however, can without exception give you stories about that stretch of road. I've been waiting for the dark day when something bad happens. A sudden move, or a reach behind a seat. My friends also without exception have trained each other to be polite, and move very, very slowly to do anything. DWB is dangerous in the US. Shouldn't be that way.

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Posted by FromSouthernIndiana on 10/09/2014 at 9:24 PM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

White male here, got a no seat belt ticket about 12 years ago in Lafayette. Cost about $40 bucks or so. I didn't have it on, was just going a couple blocks. Snapped it on after the cop put his lights on. I said I have it on. He says , you mean to tell me you had it on when I spotted you without it on? I just dropped my head and said no lol.

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Posted by CBGB on 10/09/2014 at 9:23 PM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

My (white) significant other was pulled over and ticketed for not wearing a seatbelt, even though she was. We decided to fight it in court and the cop didn't show, so no ticket or fine.

Posted by John Belden on 10/09/2014 at 8:41 PM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

i think you are trying to make a name for yourself with this story , good luck joining the rest of the 1 sided national news bozos

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Posted by Arnold Wert on 10/09/2014 at 8:23 PM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

white lady here that has been pulled over for seat belt violation while i was wearing my seat belt. when i demonsrated to the officer that i did in fact have my seat belt on his response was "when did you sneak that on".

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Posted by Sadie Slayton-Pittman on 10/09/2014 at 8:08 PM

Re: “Seat belt violations- The new driving while black?

White guy here. Been pulled over five times for it. In our town -- Kokomo -- the local dept uses federal money provided for overtime for seat belt enforcement. They have to write a set number of tickets. 12-14 in three hours.

Posted by Seatbelt violator on 10/09/2014 at 7:05 PM

Re: “Missing the point about Hobby Lobby

Right, but if health insurance wasn't tied to employment employers would have to deal with a much more competitive market for employees because suddenly the employees they can safely abuse (because they have families and "can't risk changing jobs unless they have no choice but to do it" because they'd risk losing their healthcare) would suddenly have a zero-friction way to take a new job because changing jobs would have zero impact on their family's ability to get care.

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Posted by Thorvington Finglethorpe on 07/28/2014 at 3:29 PM

Re: “Missing the point about Hobby Lobby

The bottom line is MONEY. The GOP does not want to have a single payer system, insisting that health care is not a right but a "privilege." If we gave EVERYONE health care, there might not be enough high quality care for the "privileged." The GOP does not want the "undeserving poor" to have coverage.
Those who think health care is a right are called socialists.

Hobby Lobby is using a religious argument to gain POWER. This case gave them a foot in the door! Now they can say that anything they do not want to pay for is "against their religion"--and so can every other corporation! Hobby Lobby buys most of its merchandise from China, the place where the one child policy was in place for years. The number of state mandated abortions in China is mind-boggling. Odd that Hobby Lobby sees no problem buying lots of cheap shit from China, right? This is not about religion, people. It is all about money and power.

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Posted by Annette Grande Magjuka on 07/27/2014 at 1:10 PM

Re: “Missing the point about Hobby Lobby

....and those 16 choices mean nothing if you're medically unable to use them, and can only use the ones that HL prohibits. (I should say "steals" bc the employees pay for insurance - HL just won't allow employees to use the insurance they paid for.). I would also add that health coverage advocates aren't "missing the point" by talking about how bc is none if HL's business - it's just one of many points about this mess.

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Posted by annaanastasia on 07/27/2014 at 8:53 AM

Re: “Missing the point about Hobby Lobby

I realize that this, "Hobby Lobby’s refusal to offer its employees health insurance with contraceptive coverage "is not thhe point of this story, still, you should know that Hobby Lobby's health insurance covers 16 contraceptives

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Posted by Mary Ellen Yannitelli on 07/26/2014 at 9:55 AM

Re: “Dodge City on the Central Canal

I go to Broad Ripple the same as I go everywhere else.... with situational awareness and armed.

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Posted by J_Wales on 07/20/2014 at 1:40 PM

Re: “Dodge City on the Central Canal

The people carrying aren't going to the bars most likely. They walk up and down the street doing nothing. They are not spending money patronizing these businesses. They are there to cause trouble, period!

Posted by SayNoToThugs on 07/11/2014 at 2:02 AM

Re: “Dodge City on the Central Canal

Can we just make gangbangers and those that portray them, illegal. That would make me feel a lot safer.

Posted by Darrel on 07/09/2014 at 8:04 AM

Re: “Dodge City on the Central Canal

Here's a thought: How about the bars say NO GUNS, search everyone at the door, and kick out anybody with a gun? If they can't get into any of the bars it's a lot harder for them to get drunk enough to abandon all self-control and open fire over a bumped shoulder on a sidewalk.

Moreover, I'd like to see Broadripple policed by cops that aren't "off-duty" and collecting phone numbers of attractive co-eds while in uniform but working as private security guards on the payroll of local bars. Where were any of the half-dozen off-duty cops working in uniform as private security for the bars when this went down? Did any of them try to intervene or give pursuit? Why not?

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Posted by Thorvington Finglethorpe on 07/08/2014 at 4:33 PM

Re: “America the weird

Hey Bozo if you don't like the Interstates and the desire of many Americans
to get somewhere rapidly and safely, go take the back roads and old
Route 66 and then ride Amtrack out west.
To make a column of this shows you are running out of ideas. Time for
a trip to Texas to visit your buddy Steve.

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Posted by roger that on 06/21/2014 at 3:20 PM

Re: “Kicking and screaming about climate change


• What I know about the Coal Industry is that the EPA's proposal to reduce emissions by 30% in the next 16 years could cause a loss of 70,000 jobs in the Coal Industry.
(Which political party is mostly responsible wanting a 30% reduction in emissions?)

• What I know about the Economy is a 1/2% increase in the Trade Deficit results in a loss of over 200,000 jobs TODAY, not in 16 years.
(Which political party is mostly responsible for sending jobs to other countries?)

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Posted by scharfey on 06/19/2014 at 2:56 PM


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