Look at a 3D Ultra sound, lie to yourselves all you want, that is a life. Argue whose life it is to take, but that is a life.
Reply to Toddy Cupp:
"We will need to build orphanages that will house and the state pay for the care of unwanted children." -Toddy Cupp
America houses millions of grown men every day in the Army (with families) and Prison (for non violent crime, folks who shouldn't be there). Perhaps we can take some of the money from the war on drugs and build a roof and send some corn bags a teacher and a cop and save these millions of souls, these chopped up buckets of baby bodies, that we mortgage against our collective soul.
I assure you that the most beaten upon child would rather have had the chance at life.
Reply to Gloria Jones:
"Criminalizing abortion does nothing to reduce them, it just kills and stigmatizes women. Anti-abortion is not pro-life. It is anti-woman. Roe Vs Wade was not the beginning of abortions, it was the end of women dying from abortions. " -Gloria Jones
In the years before Row v Wade about 250 women per year, IN ALL OF AMERICA, died during illegal abortions. How many innocent children did we kill to save these 200 fools?
Now 1 in 3 women murder a baby, and society should continue to trust women to make that decision when now one in three make it, it's like killing a baby is just a lifestyle choice - like buying a condo or something. Trifling fools destroying America. Your blood is on all of our hands - we made a law allowing your murderous ways, and we will soon take that law away.
Black Men for Trump! 2 Justices away from ending our support of AMERICA'S INFANT HOLOCAUST - and, as a bonus, we get our jobs back.
Reply to Katarzyna Z Walton-Myers:
"I will happily open up my home in Chicago to ANY woman seeking an abortion"
I value your right to murder a child so much that you can sleep on my couch.
Jesus must weep for you fools arguing so loud to kill his children. It is your body until y ou share it with another living thing. Buy a condom, stop disgracing your nation for your own convenience.
Jack R, if you truly believe in God, I hope when you're roasting in the fires of hell you have to endure every shred of pain and suffering your lack of compassion, not just for my daughter but the children you are willing to force her and others to bear, will cause.
Oh and as for your "evil baby killing chicks" comment, given that you have a penis and will never be forced to go through a pregnancy of any kind, much less one with anomalies, you can STFU. Your attitude toward ALL women is very evident.
Amen! Evil baby killing chicks - buy a condom.
+Cait McKnelly - Your one in a millions personal anecdote is sad but those are the breaks humans have dealt with for millenia.
Americans will save millions of healthy happy kids in exchange for your daughters temporary pain - in fact, when it is over, I am sure she will be glad she didn't kill her kid.
My daughter and son in law are currently struggling with the knowledge that their five month old daughter, my granddaughter, has an x linked genetic disorder, pyruvate drhydrogenase drficiency, that will kill her by the time she is 4 years old. There is no cure and no real treatment except symptomatic and palliative. At 5 months, she endures as many as seven grand mal seizures per day, She has dystonic muscle changes and will never walk,talk or develop normally. As the condition involves an inability to breakdown lactic acid, that substance will build up in her muscles and cause her untold pain. As it's also eating away her brain, there is a chance that it will at least eventually knock out her pain centers. Given that every subsequent pregnancy she may have with her husband has a 50/50 chance of having the same condition, my daughter has made the decision to have genetic testing done and if the tests are positive for this condition, she will terminate. The idea of another one of her children having to live through this is more than she can bear.
The fact that Pence would FORCE my daughter to have such an infant is cruel, inhumane and beyond any shred of conscience a decent human being would ever have. This is evil beyond comprehension.
Cut through the BS and it's not about the sanctity of life: at its core, especially with the emphasis against contraception as well as placing onerous restrictions on abortions, it's all about punishing poor women for enjoying recreational sex, as men have always done.
Put it together with tax cuts for the rich: taxes on the poorer 90% are subsidizing rich women going outside the state and/or outside the country to get abortions on demand.
Until that loophole for the wealthy is plugged, the hypocrisy will continue: so much for the right-wing agenda for "smaller government."
What a misleading title and article. Women's rights are very much alive. Unfortunately, despite this article's claims, women still apparently have the right to kill young humans for convenience or simply for the sadistic joy of it.
I'm afraid we may be taking dozens of steps in the wrong direction. Will we be seeing back-street and botched abortions all over again? Deja vu
I have been holding on to an idea, and feel compelled to share it. Fertilized eggs can be expelled during a woman's period, without a woman even knowing that she might have had the potential cytoblast in her. Therefore, any period could, potentially, be a miscarriage without knowledge. I would certainly hate for any of my fellow Hoosier women to be at risk of penalty if they do not "properly dispose" of this or report it. Just to cover our bases, perhaps we should make sure to contact Governor Pence's office to report our periods. We wouldn't want him thinking that THOUSANDS OF HOOSIER WOMEN A DAY are trying to hide anything, right? I'm in if you ladies are! We can ALL CALL 317-569-0709. You should really let him know, since he's so concerned Feel free to copy and post.
Spare us the hyperbole and lies butchers. If you can't read nor even have the inclination to, don't worry, you can still kill children, just not handicapped ones nor based upon race or gender. I know I know, Sanger weeps. Good.
So by making it mandatory that a fetus has to be cremated or buried, doesn't this put an unreasonable financial burden on the woman and family?
What about the father's rights? Or is he not given any until the mom wants money?? When does the baby become his where he can have a say as well? If a dad doesn't pay child support he goes to jail. Should a mom go to jail if she aborts a baby the father wants?
I think Pence just guaranteed that Indiana will go blue this election and for sure Pence will be out of a job. He is a disaster to Indiana. I am livid that a bunch of males who never had to deal with pregnancy or rape etc can make leg decisions about women's rights and bodies. He has ensured that more babies will be born in Indiana that are not wanted, possibly will be abused or killed. We will need to build orphanages that will house and the state pay for the care of unwanted children. Sad to say but I think this bill will cause more harm to children after birth than possibly ending the pregnancy before birth. I hate to think of a child enduring abuse because it was not wanted or reminds someone of a horrible experience. Pence and all Indiana lawmakers need to go...Let's go blue Indiana, time to change colors. We have been a red state way too long and it is the color of humiliation and anger. Out Pence
60% of women seeking an abortion already have kids. 1 in 3 women will have an abortion in her lifetime.
70% of women who get abortions are Christians.
The utterly disgusting lie that it is only young slutty teens is just another myth pushed to justify misogyny.
Women in every country, every race, every religion, every age have abortions.
From Uganda to Germany to France to Russia to China and Japan, women have abortions regardless of the law.
Criminalizing abortion does nothing to reduce them, it just kills and stigmatizes women.
Anti-abortion is not pro-life. It is anti-woman.
Roe Vs Wade was not the beginning of abortions, it was the end of women dying from abortions.
No woman owes you a reason for why she needs an abortion. It is her legal and constitutionally protected right to have control over her own body.
Don't like abortions, don't have one.
Abortion isn't used for any other reason but to kill an innocent life because the younger generation can't keep their legs closed. Everyone uses rape and incest and medical conditions to justify their abortion. Its a cheep copout. If you actually look at how many rapes are committed in the US and incest compared to abortions the justification isn't there. Most abortions are either by teenagers or 20 something's that aren't involved in a relationship. What about the fathers right to want to keep his kid? Why can't that happen?
We have fetal homicide laws because if the life is lost after an attack on the mother and the life is wanted, that's wrong. But if the life isn't wanted at all, it's perfectly fine to take the life. Hypocrites..
Abortion on demand, any time for any reason? Where do women's rights end?
I find it quite unsurprising that most of the people speaking against this article are men. Not your uterus, not your choice.
Any one saying that this article is influenced by left-wing radicals clearly didn't read the article. All of the quotes from government officials were from republicans who thought that the bill would do some good until it was twisted and warped by amendments added as it went through the process of a bill.
Also, to HoosierforFreedom, I suggest you actually read the article. No where does it say that HEA 1337 outlaws abortion. However, it does say that it will wreak havoc on the many women in Indiana who, like me, will at some point face the tragedy of a miscarriage. My own mother faced ridicule from her family for having a miscarriage and not being able to let the fetus pass naturally. I can only imagine how much worse that would have been for her had this bill been passed during that time.
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