So far I've seen anti-racists/racists of various sorts chiming in. Zealots of the same coin, two different sides. Both equally fascist and intolerant. No addresses how Dexter Lewis and his buddies attacked one of my co-defendants in jail. No one addresses Dexter Lewis's past criminal record and how he'd been in many altercations. Until this case, I had no criminal record. Did any of this strike anyone as relevant? What is this? Really, its fear over some provocative tattoos and people on all sides jumping to conclusions. What's with all the haters? Jealousy and envy. If I suck so bad and am such a horrible piece of worm ridden filth, then really, what more could you say or do? Why get so hyped up about it? If your negative opinions and hysteria about me give you some reason to live, then I guess you should thank me. A misdemeanor battery charge bumped up to a Class C Felony? All the system has done here is give power to the extremists and conspiracy theorists on all sides while proving once again how easily duped they are by the ADL reports which have **NO FACTS**, just tall tales and windy drama. From the bottom of my heart, may all of you zealots, sycophants and easily duped morons wake up. You're just spinning your wheels in drama.

So I see the hype and hysterics continue. Let it be said for the record I never said the "N-word" or any other racial slurs during the entire altercation. That statement that I called Dexter Lewis any names is blatant lie and just hypes up the drama level. Secondly, I don't have a criminal record. If all these horror stories about my "past" were accurate, I'd have 10 life sentences already or be dead. Third, as for believing all the drama you read on the SPLC or ADL web sites, where are their deposed witness accounts? Where did these stories come from? What have I done that is exactly "Racist"? A lot of sound off without any facts or proof. Whites and blacks are quite capable of disrespecting each other and getting into fights without it being racially motivated. I didn't go looking for Dexter Lewis and I wish I had not the displeasure of meeting such a scum bag under any circumstances. I wish he hadn't spit at and swung on my co-defendant. He initiated contact 100% and even put his hands on me before the final fight and I didn't strike him or insult him. The worst I said to him was to "keep moving" as he begged for money and wouldn't take no for an answer after putting his filthy hands on my head and saying "Nice Tattoos". Note, he wasn't involved in a physical fight until AFTER we were leaving the area and he insisted on spitting at and then striking my co-defendant. Then, a fight broke out. This is a trumped up witch hunt. I couldn't give a rats rear about the white power scene or skinheads and I even retired from the Vinlanders due to issues unrelated to this case. This whole episode has only give zealots on both sides of the issue air time while failing to address the facts at all. Three guys drinking beer got swung on by a crack head and responded. Nothing more, nothing less. Fact: He didn't get medical attention at the scene and he didn't have anything but a minor bruise. As for now, the SPLC and ADL are already up his rear trying to get him to keep on this, as is the prosecutor who made a deal with him on his current drug charges if he testified. The purpose is to demonize so they can all pat themselves on the back for locking up the "haters" and make money off it and get publicity for their political agendas through bogus lawsuits based on hyped up charges. Witch Hunt. Pure and Simple.

They are in noway whitepower bye any means there more like spinless turncoats who ran when the heat got turned up be true WNS!!!Brien James is nothing more than a fatass flake that is nothing more than a white nigger!!Honestly the world would be better off without him and his butt buddies!!!1

my 16 teen year old was burn by a 24 year old and because he has money they want me to cut hem a deal the laws work for the bad bads and we paid for them to set there butts in jail like its a party I think that the laws need to change we lost our home my job ect. he did'nt lose anything

Im a black man and I work with Tim every day. He doesnt care what color anyone is. This whole thing is retarded.

come on with the bull! this is not the mississippi burning days to where we dont have a say. I worked with timothy dumas at the circle center mall parking garage and he is totally covered from head to toe with skulls and satanical tattoes, one inparticular is the VSC that was just added since this incident.so i guess that you can chang from paul to saul overnite! i was not raised in this type of belief nor was i ever taught to hate anyone because of there race or any disfunction, to still see that it is still an issue today, and to know this person is really sickening to my stomach! the facts are the facts, they beat the crap out of that man regardless to what color he is it was wrong! and for anyone to condone that type of behavior, i hope that you all burn in hell. nomatter what the circumstance is we all bleed the same color blood, and if one of your vsc members needed an organ from me, a BLACK AFRICAN AMERICAN, to save your life, would you refuse it? still the facts are the facts, once a skinhead always a skinhead.

To Fangoria: Brother, I understand what you think you are saying. From my teens I had to deal with the Satanist moniker, faggot, and accusation of knocking off the steeple at the church near my school. Parents even had a secret session with school officials on how to deal with my evil. I'm much older now, missing a limb, I'm regularly stared at, I've been called a freak, and constantly asked what happened to me...but I understand that fundamental liberties cannot be destroyed in order to oppress the rights of those that offend you. If you commit a crime you already get punished for the crime. You should NOT be persecuted twice for the same crime because of views that may have motivated the crime or because the victim won the inclusion lottery on some bill. People have the right to like or hate whomever they want for whatever reason they want. They have a right to voice that opinion so long as they do not plot to specifically commit a crime or to ask others to do so. If you will not protect their rights, then who will protect yours when they come up for auction? Liberty is not a warm, fuzzy, peaceful, thing. We've seen the attempts at Utopian society, they always involve an elite, select, preferred group having complete dominion over those below them. Everyone gasped (as programmed) at Michael Richard's racist and unprovoked attacks at a group of blacks (whom were not heckling him, but placing orders with the waitress) at the Laugh Factory. Maybe litigation specifically against Richards was due but the real reason that Mr. Richard's mysteriously lost control that night was because he was hired to do so. Yes, the whole thing was an act staged right around the the time an old Hate Crimes bill was resurrected. If you felt the whole thing seemed out of place or just didn't make sense that's because your gut was warning you that you were being scammed. Do some research, and find out the other ways that Richard's profited off of this other than his big payoff from maybe the... ADL? Google this video if you want to learn more about the rising hatred against Christians: "Hate Laws Making Criminals out of Christians" The criminal racists and gay bashers are incredibly foolish to commit criminal acts because it's blatantly obvious that they create an opposite effect, a negative backlash for their cause. This whole discussion is really quite petty in the global scope of things. If you really want to know the true enemies of the world and understand the secrets of society then you should Google this video and watch. "ZEITGEIST, The Movie - Official Release - Full Film" "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." -- J. Edgar Hoover "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin "Liberty will be taken from those who will not defend it." -- Me "Telling the truth should not be a radical act" -- Me "Those who fear truth are purveyors of lies" -- Me "We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth…. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those, who having eyes, see not, and having ears, hear not..? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it might cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know.. it — now." Patrick Henry, 1775. "(Our) Great industrial nation is controlled by it's system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men... who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men." -- Woodrow Wilson "Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." -- P.J. O'Rourke "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies...if the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency...the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered" --Thomas Jefferson 1743-1826 "The end goal is to get everybody chipped, to control the whole society, to have the bankers and the elite people control the world." -- Nicholas Rockefeller "We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." -- David Rockefeller Council of Foreign Relations If you have been voting for politicians who promise to give you goodies at someone else's expense, then you have no right to complain when they take your money and give it to someone else, including themselves. -- Thomas Sowell (1992)

Hey HOTH, what are you talking about? You say "Classifying an expressed belief as hate speech; is simply, a cleverly disguised way for those using the wording, or pushing for the law, to impose their will and agenda on others without receiving opposition." This is the same smokescreen so-called "christian" leaders used to lobby against federal hate crime legislation. Claiming that the laws would criminalize speech. It's just not true. You are free to say whatever you like, and you are free to hate whoever you like. But you are NOT free to carry out attacks on people because you dont like the color of their skin, their religion or their sexual orientation. These "vinlanders" have been advocates of violent racist crime for years (for example, supporting the "adopt a bruder" program to raise money for the imprisoned mebers of the murderous neo-nazi gang "the order" who they claim are "prisoners of war" but are in reality common criminals) and nobody came and arrested them until they went beyond speech and actually beat the snot out of man on the street, and threatend to kill those that tried to intervene. If you can't tell the difference, thats your problem.

I just wanted to tell you how wonderful your article about hate crimes in Indiana was, I can't agree with you more! I think the State simply needs to start executing any person of hate or personal bias that dares commit a crime. If someone is caught speeding and found to hate kids, execute them! If someone doesn't pay their state income tax on time and owns a cat but no dog, execute them! New laws and corporal punishment are always the best solution when someone has the wrong opinion or emotional sentiment. To think that we've actually allowed these bigots (God I hate them!) to just roam around freely up until now! I have a list of these bigots I don't like and I'm thinking if we could get a group together we could probably get them to shut their mouths if you know what I mean So what do you think Laura?

I know why these kinds of liberal articles are so prevalent in the media. If you trace ownership back, you'll find that whenever you watch television, whether from a local broadcasting station or via cable or a satellite dish; whenever you see a feature film in a theater or at home; whenever you listen to the radio or to recorded music; whenever you read a newspaper, book, or magazine—it is very likely that the information or entertainment you receive was produced and/or distributed by one of a handful of multi-billion-dollar media conglomerates that keep growing larger consuming all competition. You are all victims of a propaganda war on you. Free and independent media is being destroyed as we approach a fascist state. Hate crime laws are part of this movement and they are the most ridiculous concept ever because they criminalize personal bias and opinion. So they're saying that the BTK murderer's crimes weren't so bad because he masturbated to the dead body of a little girl, he just murdered, for thrill and not hatred? Classifying an expressed belief as hate speech; is simply, a cleverly disguised way for those using the wording, or pushing for the law, to impose their will and agenda on others without receiving opposition. The wording tugs at peoples heart strings and creates a confused; association with morality, fear, conflict, and negative expression. Expressing opposition now becomes an immoral act that is rightfully suppressed; and thus, censorship of thought is now also implied. If you look at the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports and do the numbers it becomes blatantly apparent that the real epidemic in the nation, are crimes against whites, as opposed to crimes committed by whites. Isolated racial incidents by whites are definitely not justification for clever new legislation which is neither rational nor constitutional. Their are viscous crimes committed daily in this nation by other races that get little to no media attention simply because the media is still trying to give a racially balanced view of crime. These are virtually never prosecuted as hate crimes even when slurs and anti-white bias are present. Here is one such crime: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3797964383723614540&q=In+memory+of+the+Channon+Christian+media+black+out&hl=en Honestly, how often do you actually hear about whites brutally murdering the families of other races? I have much more to say about this false conditioning of the populace and it's true nature but this isn't the place to express it. These laws are engineered to prevent people from speaking (even when it's 100% factual) on the grounds that they are expressing or might incite some kind of hatred. They are attempting to censor and oppress people, and government has no right to do that.

Maybe I'm dumb, you'll have to explain it to me. I read that lady's whole story and it doesn't say anything about your friends beating a guy up on the street, and threatening the witnesses who tried to intervene. I did find a relevant story on your website though. Where you are hanging out in a bar here in Indy and you say "As I turn around i see this guy standing beside me and his anti-racist patch is staring me right in the face. I did a double take and promptly just reached out and removed it from his sleeve. He took about two steps back and asked what I did. I told him that if he wanted throw a nazi in the trash he could start with me." Then in the next paragraph, you brag that you single handedly have made Indy safe for nazis and racists to hang out in! Thats a great story! You sure are the kind of folks we want around here! People who are offended by "anti-racism"!

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/views/orl-parker2707jun27,0,701617.column

In case anyone is curious, "Sharp Shooter" is a reference to KILLING anti-racist activists, S.H.A.R.P. = skinheads against racial prejudice. And "828" means "Hail Blood and Honour", the "idea or a catchphrase" (not organization) that "vinlander" says his crew is not associated with, even though their photos are all over the blood and honour website, which calls itself a "worldwide movement".

828!!!

I saw this picture of the Eric Fairburn character mentioned in the report with satanic tattoos and all... http://whitetrash.net/media/media.beer/2/2008

'Blood and Honor' is simply a "catchphrase" Why does this website filled with pics of you guys say it is a "worldwide movement"? http://www.bloodandhonour-usa.com/ http://www.bloodandhonour-usa.com/sect/news/usa/council2005.html

Fairburn has no criminal record. The Vinlanders are not a part of Blood and Honour, or the white nationalist movement. You can read that plainly on the Vinlander website. They have not been for some time. Blood and Honour is not a "group" that anyone can belong to. It is merely an idea or a catchphrase.

Since 'vinlander' declined to comment on Eric Fairburn's past, here is an online profile of him from when he made the southern poverty law center's 'top ten' dangerous racists list. His mom must be proud. http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=1157 His buddy made the list too! http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=1159 Two in the top ten right here in naptown!

Hate Crimes Legislation is not set to protect any one group of people. It is a tool for the judical system to add additional time to the convicted. If you want the hate crime passed, you should contact your legislator and ask for his opinion and tell him/her that you want them to vote FOR hate crime. You as a voter has a voice!

Where is the evidence that he "threatened them for cash"? Where do you get that? Do you really think it likely that some homeless guy "threatened" 3 guys the size of gorillas for a few bucks on the street? Somehow I doubt it. Do you "wish them luck" just on this case, or with the overall goals of the neo-nazi organization "blood and honor", which is to inflict violence and terror on those they dont consider "white enough"?

I agree with Dan.I dont care if this guy was a bum/black/gay it dosnt matter. If you threaten someone for cash or harrass someone then you get beat up.End of story. Good luck to these guys.

Hey "Vinalnder", If Dexter Lewis' criminal record is an omitted fact' that is relevant to this story, could you please provide us with Eric Fairburn's criminal record too?

While I am personaly ambivalent towards the idea of "hate crime laws", you have to understand that the purpose of these laws is not to give "special protection" to any single group. A "hate crime" can be committed by anyone - against anyone. The point is that some types of crimes have an impact beyond the initial victim. When a group like "combat 18" in England (a group that some of these 'vinlanders' are affiliated with) decided to bomb gay bars, their goal ws not simply to assault a building or its occupants but to strike terror in the hearts and minds of the entire gay community. To make an entire community of people live in fear, all the time. It this was their crime is a form of terrorism. Why do you think the guy brags in the earlier quote (see below) that his "JTTF (Joint Terrorism Task Force) file is a mile long" And to "Dan" who says "good for them", if you think the solution to aggresive panhandling by homeless people is for packs of thugs to go beat the snot of them with brass knuckles, then you my friend, are an idiot.

I myself have been personally harassed by homeless people around that same area. Me and my wife were attacked for money or "change" two blocks from there. I say good for those Men, and I also think this "story" has been fabricated to make the "black Homeless guy" look like a real victim. You don't have enough wool to pull over these eyes. I wish the best of luck to those guys.

There does not need to be additional legislation for 'hate crimes'. There is already legislation regarding assult, battery, intimidation. More legislation is seldom the answer to any problem. When the law differentiates based on race,sex,relgion,creed, that's a step backwards not forwards. A violent crime is basically always a crime of some sort of hate or meanness. Johhny Cash sang " I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die" Of course Johnny didn't do this, but in his character he was singing in, a hateful crime was committed. People don't kill, beat or intimidate out of love, so the whole "hate crime" term is not useful. Justice is blind and should be so. That actually helps those who are being singled out because of their color,sex,religion. When the case gets to trial, it's at that point that the details of who the perpertrator was comes out and who the victim was comes out. And it's at that time that it matters to a jury that somebody was singled out for a beating because they were for instance gay or muslim or looked different or talked different etc. At that point, that evidence becomes part of the mitigating circumstances that will be taken into consideration,and will affect the sentencing stage of the trial. I agree a person who beats somebody up because of who they are deserves a stiff sentence. Probably more so than if they beat them up over a monetary or romantic dispute. But all of that evidence can already be presented in trial under current legislation. We don't need more laws. Just use the ones we have to fully prosecute and punish.

I hope NUVO does another stroy about this case in the future too! Especially if that is their defense, "the guy asked us for money three times! so we were forced to take turns holding him and beating the shit out of him with brass knuckles" I'm a sure jury will understand. I'm surprised your lawyer hasn't told you to not discuss the case in public like this. I'm also surprised your lawyer han't told you to take down the post on your website where you BRAG "I have been tried for attempted murder and multiple batteries and hate crimes. In all of my cases I served some time in jail and was held on extraordinary bond until I could be proven innnocent or pay my way into a decent plea deal. I have sat in jail for months on charges I was found innocent on. Hardly the treatment of a snitch. My JTTF file is a mile long..." http://www.vinlanders.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=74

Why have these two incidents gone so under reported? It would seem that the local media (both broadcast and print) are overly sensitive to the interests of local political status quo, and insensitive to the life situations of non-"WASPS" WHITE ANGLO-SAXON PROTESTANT STRAIGHTS In other words "Biggoted White Evangelicals" who - it is assumed by the media - control the city and state. And "they" have only the power and control that we collectively give to them. Not all Evangelical Christians are under that umbrella. The so-called "Christian" lobbyists who push for anti-gay legislation do not speak for even the majority of truly Evangelical Christians, let alone other Christ centered orgainzations. We must begin now to plan for political action to promote and pass effective Hate Crime Legislation in the 2008 Indiana General Assembly.

This article is nothing more than a selective regurgitation of a second police report that was re-written after the ADL became involved in this case. The first report was a misdemeanor report with no allegations of felony conduct or racial overtones. Dexter Lewis and his friend are homeless beggars. Dexter has pending class B felony crack cocaine charges as we speak. There is also a sex offender on the registry with the same name and age as Dexter. They were not asking about tattoos. They were DEMANDING money from the three men. Not once, but three times, until the situation finally escalated. It will all come out in court. We will see if the NUVO feels like writing another article when that happens.

I have written you before and respect your position most of the time. It is unfortunate that you cannot take an objective opinion about things that stir your passions. I believe that is keeping you from greater things. Consider this... when everyone non-white is given special status, who will protect them? A crime is a crime. Besides various reports claiming that the most discriminated against group in the USA is young white males, the rattle for hate crimes laws persist as the “feel good” legislation of the moment. You speak of the crimes as if you were there because you believe the worst and want us to also. Nice touch, with the stats, but what if I told you that I saw a report generated from government numbers that said that blacks commit 85% of all the interracial crimes reported in the US every year and are only 13% of the population. Local media cover up the worst of interracial crimes that are not committed by blacks and local police are instructed not to report crimes as hate crimes if the perps aren't white (even when racial slurs are used during). I was particular disappointed about you publishing peoples addresses. That tactic is always called a foul by the left and may have some very real legal implications that won't be so amusing for you. Time will tell. http://amren.com/colorofcrime/color.pdf

Suppose these men had beat this man because they wanted to rob him or take his shoes? What if they had beaten a white man? Are these somehow lesser crimes? If three black men beat a white man, would it be a hate crime? I doubt it. A hideous crime is a hideous crime; the color or sexual preference should not figure into the equation.

The random 'hate-crime' committed by some drunken redneck is one thing, but the first part of this story is about whole 'nother issue. These guys are organized white supremacist activists. They are members of "Blood And Honor", a world-wide Neo-Nazi terrorist organization implicated in "hate crimes" all over the world. Some of them are affiliated with "Combat 18", an even more radical group that first made headlines years ago after firebombing a number of gay bars in London. Groups like this can only survive and maintain themselves if given enough room to operate. It's time for people to say "Enough! You are not welcome in our community anymore!" and untill that day comes we will continue to see these kind of crimes here in Indy.

I think it's just getting to the point that these people are showing us that just because you have religion doesn't make you a good and loving person. I'm sure many throw out the "No True Scottman Fallacy" by saying "well those aren't real Christians." Well what IS a real one? Definitions differ. One might believe in stoning, one might believe in racism, one might use it as justification for sexism, for vengeance and on and on. After all, Jesus did say, "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn "a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law--a man's enemies will be the members of his own household." (Matthew 10:34-36)" even though he also said to love your neighbors. Whose version of "Christian" should really matter or do we really need it to be a good and decent person? It is from my experience the most decent, loving and understanding people are often atheists or those who prefer to be called "humanists." It just takes people using their book of choice and bringing things it says to fruition for people to say, "Whoa, wait a minute, maybe this really doesn't make a whole lot of sense after all." How does that quote go? "It takes good people to do good things but for good people to do bad things...that takes religion."

hetherkae: The "gay panic" defense is just another example of the still obvious gender issues that occur in our society. Men are taught to be so far from similar to 'women' that having sexual relations with someone of the same sex, showing emotion, participating in what was once thought of as "women's work" is all akin to something sinister and wrong. It's not until society overcomes it's own gender related issues and stereotypes that it will ever end. It also could be said that numerous studies have shown that those who fly into this rage or are the most homophobic themselves actually are harboring homosexual thoughts and feelings. Sometimes it's just hard to ignore the facts.

Many legislators recently have indicated they found no need for hate crime legislation either because of religious convictions or because they asked police officers if it would help and many said no, however, little effort went into asking those criminologists who actually study the mountains of data provided by having hate crimes laws in place. If we are to adequately understand why particular crimes occur and how to prevent them we must give those who study it the tools they need to do so. By providing a more in-depth classification of crimes, criminologists are able to observe why hate crimes occur and how to prevent them. Anyone who worked to defeat this claiming "the good guys won" has blood on their own hands whether they want to admit it or not. You can believe in any of the 3600+ god(s) available and give a million reasons why they say you should or should not do something but at the end of the day does ignoring a serious problem because said god encouraged you not to do so make the problem go away? We are human beings working together to make society a better place. Any individual invoking a particular god as a reason not to protect people is sickening and incredibly self-serving on a number of levels and they should be ashamed of themselves. Hate crimes legislations may not necessarily keep people from killing out of pure self-righteous and judgmental hatred but if it gives pause to prevent ONE beating or murder or leads researchers to identify a solution to preventing even ONE crime then it was worth every second it takes to vote it into law. I hope that eventually our legislators and lobbying theists become educated enough to understand this.

Interesting that these "vinlander social club" guys, after being arrested, took down the fundraising drive from their website where they were trying to raise money for the legal defense of Charles Marovskis, a fellow "blood and honor" member who beat 2 homeless men to death in florida.

Thank you Kyle Flood for the link - I signed up!

Thanks Laura for reporting these stories. After reading your excellent article I was really disturbed by the fact that neither of these stories made the local newspaper. We need to be aware of what's going on out there so the decent open-minded people of this state can combat it. I'm so tired of the evangelicals running this state. They do NOT speak for all of us! Unfortunately they're better organized than those of us, who would live and let live. Because we're not so concerned with what our neighbors are doing, we're not paying close enough attention to what people like Eric Miller are trying to accomplish. We must not let them take over this state! As to the idiot white guys that claim to be in a "social club" haven't we moved beyond all of this yet? It's uneducated poor white trash that keeps that movement alive and unfortunately Indiana has more than our share of that sad demographic.

Support Hate Crimes Bill!! http://www.hrc.org/

Another angle ... "The accused reportedly plan to use a “gay-panic defense” similar to that used by the men convicted of killing Matthew Shepard in 1998." They are trying to use this precidence to get a lighter sentence. From other blog sites I have read that Mr. Hall may not have even been gay ... regardless ... the "gay-panic defense" is/can be a serious problem and used inappropriately seemingly can be another hate crime in and of itself. 'IN is too "red" for me', is what I have always told my friends fron around the country and this all bring a sad twist to the word "RED" ... how long can I stay here feeling like I somehow have blood on my hand by association.

Welcome to Indiana... Where tomorrow is yesterday!

Is it any wonder why Indiana continues to be the brain-drained Mississippi of the Midwest. So called "Christian" Evangelicals who should be at the forefront of getting the bill passed are acting like their "Christian" forefathers of the 50's who ignored civil rights and helped foster the hate and terror in the south while KKK members sat in their pews.I am really starting to hate that word Evangelical. The new meaning of that word is go to church on Sunday and disrespect(In the name of God)eveyone else on Monday. Indiana's state motto should be "The More Things Change The More Things Like Indiana Stay The Same."